A conversation with Professor Janice Ellis, Professor of Dental Education & Consultant in Restorative Dentistry, at Newcastle School of Dental Sciences. Janice started her academic career with an interest in periodontal disease and spent a fascinating PhD looking at drug induced gingival overgrowth, developing novel lab techniques, and conducting large scale epidemiology studies. Following her PhD she moved her attention towards implant supported over-dentures, which led her to collaborate with McGill University in Canada; but her career took another turn, when she rediscovered a passion for education research. During the podcast Janice describes the twists and turns of her academic career, and shares her love of the Northeast of England and exercising outdoors.